Canada Letter: Our extensive interview with Mark Carney
The prime minister sat down with 10 New York Times journalists on Wednesday.
Canada Letter
September 26, 2026

Special Edition: Our Interview With Mark Carney

On Wednesday, Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada visited The New York Times headquarters in Midtown Manhattan after his engagements at the United Nations General Assembly, sitting for an hourlong interview with 10 reporters and editors.

I was one of them, and in this week’s Canada Letter, I want to share some important moments and takeaways from the interview.

In a wide-ranging conversation, Mr. Carney delved into new details about a number of issues vital to Canadians. Foremost among them was, perhaps, his own perception of the risk of the United States taking military action against Canada.

A portrait session at The New York Times with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney on Wednesday. Daniel Berehulak/The New York Times

The Times’s question to Mr. Carney on this topic was: “At any point in the last 18 months, were you ever seriously concerned that President Trump, as these threats escalated, would seriously use military force against Canada?”

Mr. Carney paused for nine seconds, twice interrupting the silence to clear his throat.

Then he said: “I think you have a responsibility in these roles to look at extreme tail risk.” He added: “That’s just that’s risk management. That’s not a base case, but it would be irresponsible not to.”

The stunning, if narrow and carefully worded statement by Mr. Carney, has generated a strong response in Canada.

Times reporters asked Mr. Carney to elaborate on the types of actions he had taken to mitigate this “extreme tail risk” — a term borrowed from finance to describe an event that is highly unlikely to happen but would be significant if it did- — but he declined to elaborate.

It was a tense moment that stood out in an otherwise fluid conversation that touched on a number of issues.

MARK CARNEY ON TRUMP, TRADE AND CANADA’S ROLE AS A ‘MIDDLE POWER’

Key takeaways from the interview include:

  • Mr. Carney said that Canada would move away from using Starlink, the Elon Musk-owned satellite communications program.
  • He also said his government was closely reviewing the decision to order 88 Lockheed Martin F-35s, with a counterproposal from the Swedish aerospace and defense company Saab for Gripen fighter jets. Mr. Carney stressed that “It is a real decision because of differing capabilities, because of strategic dependencies and because of the economic return.”
  • He did not rule out running for a second term in office, elaborating on his thinking on the matter.
  • He spoke in depth about how he perceives opportunities and risks in the most important non-U.S. relationships he is pursuing: with the European Union, China and India.
  • On the matter of India, with the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi planned for December, Mr. Carney said that increased cooperation on security issues was positive, but that he could not rule out further India-linked crime on Canadian soil.
  • Mr. Carney went into some depth about A.I.-related risks, saying that his “P-doom score” — or his perception of the probability of a catastrophic event related to artificial intelligence — was “above zero.”

The Times will publish a transcript of the interview in the coming days.

Mr. Carney spoke at length about his vision for reducing Canada’s dependence on the United States in a meeting with journalists from The Times on Wednesday. Daniel Berehulak/The New York Times

MORE FROM OUR INTERVIEW WITH MARK CARNEY

Mark Carney, in a dark suit and sitting in a boardroom chair, gestures with his hand as he speaks.

Daniel Berehulak/The New York Times

As Carney Seeks New Partners for Canada, He Knows the Limits

Canada’s prime minister is pursuing deeper trade, defense and cultural ties with China, India and the European Union, but none are likely to replace ties to the United States.

By Matina Stevis-Gridneff

A person in a dark suit smiles, standing before a dark blue backdrop. Photography lighting is on the left; pictures are on the far wall.

Daniel Berehulak/The New York Times

Carney’s Big Challenge: Time

As he tries to break Canada’s dependence on the United States, Prime Minister Mark Carney said he knows Canadians will feel pain from the trade war.

By Matina Stevis-Gridneff and Sydney Ember

A person with gray hair, wearing a dark suit and patterned tie, sits with hands clasped. Framed art hangs on the wall behind them.

Daniel Berehulak/The New York Times

Carney Says Risk of an A.I. Catastrophe Is ‘Above Zero’

In contrast to President Trump’s calls for an unfettered A.I. industry, Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada called for international coordination on regulations.

By Tyler Pager and Colby Smith

Matina Stevis-Gridneff is the Canada bureau chief at The Times. She lives in Toronto.

More on Canada-U.S. relations

Prime Minister Mark Carney arrives for the 81st session of the United Nations General Assembly at the United Nations headquarters in New York City on Tuesday. Dave Sanders for The New York Times
  • At the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, Mr. Carney expanded on his vision for international cooperation, outlining how nations could safeguard their mutual interests following a “rupture” to the world order by the United States and China.
  • Mr. Carney and President Emmanuel Macron of France met on Sunday in St. Pierre and Miquelon, the tiny French territory off the coast of Newfoundland. They discussed interests that France and Canada share, and which the Trump administration rejects.
  • Ottawa’s City Council decided that a street should no longer be named for President Trump, who recently signed an executive order to change the name of Lake Ontario to Lake America.
  • Coats, jackets and parkas made in Canada are becoming caught in the middle of the trade war with the United States, as some of the biggest players in outerwear, including Canada Goose, try to endure the latest tariff shock.
  • Why do the trade wars keep coming for your whiskey?
  • While the Canada-U.S. relationship has suffered, at the other, typically more contentious American border, a partnership is blooming.
  • Americans who attended the recent Toronto International Film Festival might have wondered what reception they would receive, with the ongoing trade war and an American president who has taken a hostile posture toward one of his country’s closest allies.

Trans Canada

The Haitian-Canadian poet and novelist Thélyson Orélien has been accused of using artificial intelligence to help write his acclaimed novel “It Was Either That Or Die.” Nasuna Stuart-Ulin for The New York Times

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