The Interview: Rutger Bregman Wants to Save Elites From Their Wasted Lives
The historian is on a mission to get the best and brightest out of their lucrative jobs and into morally ambitious work.
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May 17, 2025, 5:30 a.m. Eastern time

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The historian is on a mission to get the best and brightest out of their lucrative jobs and into morally ambitious work.

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