The Interview: This World-Renowned Negotiator Says Trump’s Secret Weapon Is Empathy
Chris Voss on our “dealmaker in chief” and the benefit of approaching life as a deal waiting to be made.
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August 16, 2025, 5:30 a.m. Eastern time

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Chris Voss on our “dealmaker in chief” and the benefit of approaching life as a deal waiting to be made.

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